Teaching Shelter Dogs to Send Telepathic Messages to their Perfect Future Owners
Paloma Baerschi has been an Animal Communicator since 2001. She lives in Switzerland – and her stories of communicating with animals are nothing short of extraordinary. In this episode she talks about how she taught shelter dogs to envision their perfect life, with the perfect human. They sent their messages “out into the ether” – and some humans felt an unmistakable call to drive many miles, crossing several countries, to find their “Soul Dog.” Paloma tells how she found “her” dog this way and how you can learn to not miss these subtle messages from the dog who is waiting for you!
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BIO:
Born in the Year of the Horse, I was drawn to these animals from a very early age. I got my first riding lesson when I was five.
I can look back on over 35 years of riding experience, which I shared with Ljomi, my Icelandic horse, for 21 years.
The animals have always been friends to me and we had a very special bond until we were young.
But my professional career initially took me somewhere completely different. I completed a commercial apprenticeship at a major bank, followed by a six-month stay in England, which continued with additional experience in the commercial area, further training to become a management assistant, training to become a webmaster and founding my own internet consulting company.
In the summer of 98 I had the key experience that led me back to the animals; when a horse spoke to me. There had always been animals in my life throughout my life and I had a good relationship with them, but I increasingly noticed that I had lost something. When I came across the book “Conversations with Animals” by Penelope Smith, my path was clear to me.
Since I wasn't just interested in being able to communicate with animals , but also in helping them holistically, I trained as a life energy consultant for animals. I learned various forms of therapy, including radionics, color therapy, Bach flowers and homeopathy.
I later trained as a dog trainer at Turid Rugaas in order to be able to help people with behavior problems (people usually have behavior problems, even though they mean well, and not the dogs).
I have been working full-time as an animal-human life coach since 2004 and combine my diverse knowledge to help people better understand their animal companions from AZ, to increase the quality of life of animals and people in order to achieve an even more harmonious coexistence.
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Announcer: This is Pet Life Radio.
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Genie Joseph: Hello, everyone.
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Genie Joseph: Welcome to The Human-Animal Connection podcast, and I've been really looking forward to this show.
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Genie Joseph: One of my favorite animal communicators, Paloma Baerschi from Switzerland, is with me today, and we had a date to talk about working with shelter animals from the point of view of communicating.
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Genie Joseph: So Paloma, would you just tell the folks a little bit about yourself as an animal communicator?
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Genie Joseph: Sure.
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Paloma Baerschi: Thank you for having me, Genie.
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Paloma Baerschi: And yes, so I've been an animal communicator since 2001.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Paloma Baerschi: And when I started with animal communication, I didn't have a dog, but I was looking for a dog.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then I stopped looking for a dog, because I had some points on my list, you know, like the dog needs to be small and shouldn't bark, and you know, like ideas that people have and should get along with rabbits.
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Paloma Baerschi: And you know, because I used to have rabbits, so they were running around free in my apartment when I was there.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I knew the dog needed to be okay with rabbits running around.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I had all these points on the list.
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Paloma Baerschi: And when I was talking to people that had rescue dogs, you know, I was looking in shelters for a dog.
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Paloma Baerschi: I didn't want to go to a breeder.
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Paloma Baerschi: You know, there are so many poor souls in need for a home.
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Paloma Baerschi: So give them a chance.
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Paloma Baerschi: But they were telling me, no, such a dog doesn't exist.
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Paloma Baerschi: So then I stopped looking for a dog.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then something very interesting happened.
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Paloma Baerschi: I got an email from a lady that wanted me to talk with her cats.
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Paloma Baerschi: And at the bottom, there was a link which said PBH.
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Paloma Baerschi: And PBH are my initials, like, you know, Paloma Baerschi Herrera.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I clicked on that link because I knew what kind of link is that, you know?
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Paloma Baerschi: And it was actually a link for a Spanish website that said, Perros buscan hogar.
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Paloma Baerschi: So dogs looking for a home.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I clicked on urgent, you know, like emergencies.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I go, well, let's follow up what is there.
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Paloma Baerschi: And there was this dog and it said the name was Anton.
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Paloma Baerschi: And somehow this dog, I looked at the picture and this dog totally connected with me immediately and said, My name is Tony.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I mean, I perfectly knew, you know, that wasn't coming from me.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Paloma Baerschi: So and I and he said, and I want and I'm your dog.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I go like, well, hold on.
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Paloma Baerschi: I'm not looking for a dog.
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Paloma Baerschi: And what are you talking about?
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Paloma Baerschi: And he said, well, you said you put that specification out, you know, into the energy field.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I actually I am that dog.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I go like, okay, okay.
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Paloma Baerschi: I thought, right.
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Paloma Baerschi: So let me talk to the lady.
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Paloma Baerschi: So when I talked to the lady with her cats, and I told her about the email, about the link, and then she goes, oh, yes, yes, that's I can I can give you the connection.
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Paloma Baerschi: To the foster of that dog.
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Paloma Baerschi: No, just so I phoned that foster, and then she told me where she was living.
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Paloma Baerschi: And it was such a coincidence.
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Paloma Baerschi: And, you know, there are no coincidences, you know that.
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Paloma Baerschi: So she said she told me where she was living.
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Paloma Baerschi: And that was actually on the route that my mom and I were going to drive, because we were driving through Spain on holidays.
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Paloma Baerschi: And it was just, you know, on there.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I go like, well, I will be passing that place.
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Paloma Baerschi: Maybe I can stop and get to know the dog and see, you know.
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Paloma Baerschi: So we did that.
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Paloma Baerschi: And it was so funny because she had other foster dogs.
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Paloma Baerschi: We arrived there, all the foster dogs were so happy, they were so nice, all but Tony.
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Paloma Baerschi: Tony didn't come near and he growled at me.
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Paloma Baerschi: So, but then obviously, you know, I said, well, I had been communicating with him back and forth.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I knew that he was the dog I was going to take with him, with me.
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Paloma Baerschi: And he knew it as well.
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Paloma Baerschi: But he was a very anxious dog.
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Paloma Baerschi: And we stayed there for three days.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Paloma Baerschi: So that he could get to you.
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Paloma Baerschi: He could get used to me.
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Paloma Baerschi: I was I started to feed him.
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Paloma Baerschi: I started to go out for walks with him.
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Paloma Baerschi: But we were staying in the house.
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Paloma Baerschi: He was staying in our room through the night, you know, like so that he was getting used to us.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Paloma Baerschi: So we stayed there for three days.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then we left with Tony.
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Paloma Baerschi: But before we left, this foster lady tells me, you know, you live in Switzerland.
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Paloma Baerschi: Could you maybe look if you can find some homes for these two other dogs that I have?
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I mean, back then, I'm talking here for 20 years ago, you know.
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Genie Joseph: All right.
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Paloma Baerschi: Back then, there wasn't any social media or anything like that.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I tell her, well, the only thing I can do is I can put them up on my website, put a picture there, maybe somebody will see them and, you know, yeah, maybe we can find a home for them.
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Paloma Baerschi: So she said, yeah, that's good enough for me.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then I thought, well, why not make an experiment?
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Paloma Baerschi: And then I talked to the two dogs and said, look, I'm from Switzerland.
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Paloma Baerschi: I sent them the energy of the country.
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Paloma Baerschi: You know, every country feels different.
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Paloma Baerschi: It's like in the US, every state feels different.
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Paloma Baerschi: Yeah.
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Paloma Baerschi: When you change the state, it's just another feeling.
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Paloma Baerschi: So every country has its own vibration.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I sent them the vibration of Switzerland.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I said, look, that's where I live.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I can look for a home for you there if you're willing to come.
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Paloma Baerschi: But you need to tell me what kind of home you're looking for so that I can look for the right home for you.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I talked to them.
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Paloma Baerschi: And they told me what they wanted.
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Genie Joseph: What did they say?
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Paloma Baerschi: So one said she wanted to live near a place where she could go swimming.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then she said she didn't want any children.
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Paloma Baerschi: So she wanted a single person.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Paloma Baerschi: She wanted to have one person.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then the other one wanted a garden and a swimming pool.
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Genie Joseph: All right.
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Paloma Baerschi: And that one was okay with elderly people.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I actually, you know, wrote that down and I actually wrote it in the description.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Paloma Baerschi: Of the picture, you know, the things that I set up.
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Genie Joseph: And you said they told you that, right?
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Genie Joseph: In the description?
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Paloma Baerschi: Well, in the description, I didn't say that.
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Paloma Baerschi: Well, I can't remember if I said they told me that.
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Paloma Baerschi: But yeah, anyway, I put that up in the description.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then I thought, well, if Tony found me because of this specification that I set up in the ether, shouldn't it be possible for them to find a home according to their specifications?
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Paloma Baerschi: So I told them, maybe you could look around or maybe you could see if you find that vibration that you're looking for.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: So about two weeks after I came back to Switzerland and I put the two dogs up on my website, I got a phone call from somebody, a single woman that was interested in one of the dogs, the one that actually wanted a single person.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I go like, oh, well, yes, I can come.
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Paloma Baerschi: And so I went there and saw where she lived, and we went for a walk.
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Paloma Baerschi: And there was a small river where she could then go for a swim with the dog just nearby and so on.
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Paloma Baerschi: It was just perfect.
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Paloma Baerschi: It was everything that the dog actually wanted.
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Paloma Baerschi: So we made arrangements for her to adopt the dog.
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Genie Joseph: Now you didn't bring the dogs back home with you, did you?
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Paloma Baerschi: No, no, no.
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Paloma Baerschi: They were still in Spain.
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Paloma Baerschi: They were still in the foster in Spain.
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Paloma Baerschi: So then I phoned the lady and I told her, obviously, and then this other dog, the one that still hadn't a family, contacted me and said, I want that too.
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Paloma Baerschi: I want to find a family too.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I said, well, why don't you do the same thing that this other dog has done?
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Paloma Baerschi: Well, why don't you connect with her?
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Paloma Baerschi: Let her explain to you what she has done and you do the same thing.
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Paloma Baerschi: And back then I had no idea whether this was going to work, really.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then about two weeks later, I got a phone call from a woman saying, I'm interested in the dog you have there.
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Paloma Baerschi: And my husband and I live in a house with a swimming pool.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I go like, hey, let me come and have a look at your house.
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Paloma Baerschi: Let me talk to you.
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Paloma Baerschi: Because I wanted to make sure this was a good place and so on and so forth, so they ended up adopting that dog.
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Genie Joseph: And they went to Spain to get the dog?
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Paloma Baerschi: No, we actually had the dog come here with a transport.
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Paloma Baerschi: So back then, there was this woman that was driving back and forth with dogs.
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Genie Joseph: How long a drive is that?
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Genie Joseph: I don't know the geography.
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Paloma Baerschi: So from Spain to Switzerland or Germany, because they went to Germany and then they just crossed the border, it was about an 18-hour drive, 20-hour drive, something like that.
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Paloma Baerschi: Quite a long drive.
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Paloma Baerschi: But I mean, the car was adapted to that.
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Paloma Baerschi: So that was actually my first experience.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then I thought, oh, well, this worked with Tony and me.
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Paloma Baerschi: This worked with these two other dogs.
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Paloma Baerschi: Maybe it works also with other dogs.
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Paloma Baerschi: I started actually contacting animals because back then, as I said, there was no social media, but there were people sending emails back and forth with pictures of animals like, this animal needs a home or they're in a kill shelter, they're going to be euthanized in a week or whatever.
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Paloma Baerschi: So there were lots of emails.
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Genie Joseph: Yes, I remember those days.
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Genie Joseph: I remember those days.
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Paloma Baerschi: Yeah, exactly.
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Paloma Baerschi: So then I started to contact those animals, you know, and I told them, actually, that's what I told them.
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Paloma Baerschi: I told them, look, if you want to leave your body, stay where you are, because they would be getting euthanized sooner or later.
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Paloma Baerschi: So if you want to leave your body, stay where you are.
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Paloma Baerschi: If you don't want to leave your body, you need to find yourself a human that takes you out of that shelter.
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Paloma Baerschi: Now, something very interesting happened here, because some dogs were asking me, what do I need a human for?
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Paloma Baerschi: Yeah, because they didn't know why they needed a human.
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Genie Joseph: Right, right.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I had to explain to them why they needed a human.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Genie Joseph: They had never been in a home with a human, so they didn't know their value.
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Paloma Baerschi: Yeah, exactly.
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Paloma Baerschi: So they didn't know what a human, why do I need a human, what do I need a human for?
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Paloma Baerschi: So I explained it to them.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then what I also noticed was that some dogs didn't know what a home was.
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Paloma Baerschi: So, you know, but for the high-kill shelters, I just told them, I didn't tell them about the home.
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Paloma Baerschi: I told them, get a human to get you out of there.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then, you know, then we could talk about something else.
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Paloma Baerschi: The most important thing is get a human to get you out of there.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then I was thinking, I thought, well, how to explain to them what type of human that needs to be?
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Paloma Baerschi: Because a human is also an employee of a high-kill shelter.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Paloma Baerschi: But that's not the vibration they're looking for.
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Genie Joseph: Right, right, right.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I sent them my vibration.
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Paloma Baerschi: I thought, look, a human that vibrates more or less like me, you know, an animal-loving human.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I sent them the vibration.
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Paloma Baerschi: I sent them a range of vibration, maybe also the vibration of a friend of mine that had a shelter.
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Paloma Baerschi: Where they don't kill animals, you know.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I sent them different types of vibrations from human-loving, animal-loving humans, so that they could actually get or attract a human that would get them out.
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Genie Joseph: Yes, wonderful.
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Genie Joseph: Now hold that thought, because we're going to need to take a quick little break, and then I want to hear the rest of that story.
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Genie Joseph: So right on that cliffhanger, we'll take a break.
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Genie Joseph: We'll be right back.
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Genie Joseph: Welcome back to The Human-Animal Connection Podcast, and we're speaking with Paloma Baerschi.
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Genie Joseph: She is an animal communicator since 2001.
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Genie Joseph: She lives in Switzerland, and she's telling us a remarkable story about communicating with shelter dogs about how to find their human.
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Genie Joseph: Okay, keep going, this is exciting.
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Paloma Baerschi: Yeah, so something that happened to me was, as you just said, I live in Switzerland, but I used to go to Spain to spend some holidays there.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then I also taught some courses.
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Paloma Baerschi: So like sort of, I financed my holidays teaching courses.
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Paloma Baerschi: So I was in this house teaching a course, and here comes this woman with Mastiff, you know, like it's a huge dog.
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Genie Joseph: Oh Mastiff?
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Paloma Baerschi: Yeah, Mastiff, yeah, exactly.
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Paloma Baerschi: I think you say Mastiff in English.
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Genie Joseph: We say Mastiff, yeah.
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Paloma Baerschi: Yeah, yeah, so it's a really huge dog.
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Paloma Baerschi: Huge, yeah.
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Paloma Baerschi: So here comes that lady with this Mastiff, and she sits there, and we're talking, we haven't started the course yet, and that dog is staring at me.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then I go like, oh, well, yeah, hi.
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Paloma Baerschi: And we start the course, we do the first part of the morning, then we have a break, and then I want to go out into the garden, and this Mastiff stands in my way.
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Paloma Baerschi: Now, if a Mastiff stands in your way, you don't go anywhere.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then I say, well, okay, so apparently she wants to tell me something.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: And she was staring at me before, now she stands in my way.
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Paloma Baerschi: And so she looks at me and I go like, okay, tell me.
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Paloma Baerschi: What is it?
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Paloma Baerschi: Yeah.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then she goes like, it's me, Fortuna.
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Genie Joseph: Fortuna.
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Genie Joseph: Fortuna.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I go like, huh?
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Paloma Baerschi: And then I ask the woman, hold on a second, how long have you had this dog?
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Paloma Baerschi: She's all about two months.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I go like, okay, let me guess.
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Paloma Baerschi: She is from a high-kill shelter.
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Paloma Baerschi: Yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: She goes like, yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I say, do you by any chance know whether her picture has been sent around?
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Paloma Baerschi: And then she goes like, yeah, probably yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I go like, I think I have something to do with her being with you.
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Paloma Baerschi: And she goes like, what?
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Paloma Baerschi: And then I told her what I usually do, you know, I contact all those dogs that come on through email to me, and then I tell them what they need to do.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then she goes like, I was wondering why on earth I was driving 60 miles to a high-kill shelter, having other shelters more near me.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, yeah.
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Paloma Baerschi: I just knew I had to go to that high-kill shelter, and I was drawn to that cage.
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Genie Joseph: That's amazing, that's amazing.
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Genie Joseph: Now, so tell me a little bit about the process of talking to the dogs and telling them how to communicate to humans.
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Genie Joseph: What's that like?
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Genie Joseph: Do they respond immediately?
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Genie Joseph: Do they understand how to communicate?
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Genie Joseph: Do they need education?
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Genie Joseph: What did you notice?
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Genie Joseph: Like you describe it as if it was so easy and simple for them to understand this concept of putting out their intention, being clear what they wanted.
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Genie Joseph: What was it like?
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Paloma Baerschi: Well, it's not, it's actually, it's not that easy because we have to realize in what situations dogs are.
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Paloma Baerschi: Dogs are in, that are in shelters.
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Paloma Baerschi: They are like homeless people.
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Genie Joseph: Yes, yes, yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: People that live on the streets.
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Paloma Baerschi: Now, if you look at homeless people, you get some very bright brains, you know, on the street, like professors and, I mean, really intelligent people living on the street.
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Paloma Baerschi: And you would never think, well, why on earth is this person living on the street?
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Paloma Baerschi: Well, what happens is maybe they lose their job, they lose the family, then they lose the house, then they lose hope, and then they just end up on the street and they are in a downward spiral.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: And they just don't, you know, they don't have the strength to pull themselves out of that anymore.
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Paloma Baerschi: They need somebody that comes and tells them, takes them by the hand and tells them what they need to do.
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Paloma Baerschi: Now, the same thing happens with shelter animals.
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Paloma Baerschi: Animals, those animals have lost everything, and some of them never had anything.
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Paloma Baerschi: And so they need somebody that comes and tells them what they need to do in order to get out of there.
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Paloma Baerschi: Now, some animals know what a home is.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: Some animals don't.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Paloma Baerschi: So if you have an animal that knows what a home is, then you can say, well, I usually explain to the animals, you know, because most people, let's be honest, most people don't communicate consciously telepathically with animals.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Paloma Baerschi: So, you know, if an animal contacts them, they're not gonna get it.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Paloma Baerschi: But what an animal can do is they can look into the ether, look for that specification that they're looking for, like Tony did.
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Paloma Baerschi: Yes, yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then find the source of this.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Paloma Baerschi: That they'll find the human.
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Paloma Baerschi: And what then, what they do then, they connect with the human, they sort of enter through the back door, I call it the back door, they come through the back door, they connect with the human without the human noticing it, and they place their need, their specification into the human.
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Genie Joseph: Yes, wow.
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Paloma Baerschi: So you actually tell the animal, you go there and you go in through the back door and you put your specification there.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then obviously, if that person is looking for a dog, that's going to match.
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Genie Joseph: Now, I just want to ask one thing.
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Genie Joseph: When you say back door, what do you mean by a back door?
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Genie Joseph: Are you talking about a physical back door?
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Genie Joseph: Are you talking about an energetic back door?
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Genie Joseph: Are you talking about in the body itself?
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Genie Joseph: Where is the back door?
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Paloma Baerschi: I call it the back door, because they connect with you without you noticing it.
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Paloma Baerschi: It's like you sneak in through the back door into a house.
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Genie Joseph: Okay, metaphorically speaking, the back door.
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Paloma Baerschi: Yeah, exactly.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Genie Joseph: And dogs probably know where that is, energetically.
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Paloma Baerschi: Yes, because I explain it to them.
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Paloma Baerschi: You connect with the person, and you put your specification inside the person.
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Paloma Baerschi: The thing is, basically, that's actually what animals do.
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Paloma Baerschi: All animals do that, so animals know that most people don't communicate with them on a telepathic level, but they have their needs, and they want their needs to be met.
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Paloma Baerschi: So what they usually do is they connect with their humans.
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Paloma Baerschi: They sneak in through the back door, place their needs inside of their human, and for the human, it looks like it's their idea.
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Genie Joseph: Right, perfect.
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Genie Joseph: That's just so elegant and smart and bypasses resistance.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, I know, because I had the same thing.
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Genie Joseph: I had just moved to Tucson from Hawaii, and I was staying with friends in a house, and they had one rule, no animals.
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Genie Joseph: And I was volunteering at the shelter.
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Genie Joseph: I knew I needed to be at this particular shelter, and I'd been volunteering there.
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Genie Joseph: And one day, this little dog was being dragged by this rescue worker with this huge cone, you know, and she was just terrified.
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Genie Joseph: And she saw me standing.
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Genie Joseph: I was standing right outside the door of the shelter.
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Genie Joseph: He was hauling her in, and she leapt right into my chest, knowing that I wouldn't catch her.
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Genie Joseph: So I had to go get an apartment.
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Genie Joseph: So yeah, that was Sophia.
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Genie Joseph: So that's, yeah.
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Genie Joseph: So I think a lot of people have had, not everybody, but a lot of people have had that experience that there was a knowingness that the animal recognized them.
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Genie Joseph: I see that when I'm at the shelter.
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Genie Joseph: I see some dogs will absolutely, like, they walk up to that person and they know the minute.
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Genie Joseph: Even before petting or talking, they just know.
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Genie Joseph: And other dogs, they're not connecting.
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Genie Joseph: And of course, nothing we can do as volunteers.
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Genie Joseph: It's not our job to intervene in any way in that way, unless it's an unsafe situation.
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Genie Joseph: But it's amazing when dogs have that knowingness.
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Genie Joseph: Here, I'm going to show you, that's Sophia there.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: I mean, it's really remarkable.
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Genie Joseph: So how can people begin to open the door with their animals that share their lives?
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Genie Joseph: Or should we talk about that?
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Genie Joseph: Or should we talk about people who are volunteering in shelters?
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Genie Joseph: Which would you like to answer?
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Paloma Baerschi: Well, I think for people that volunteer in shelters, let's talk about that.
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Paloma Baerschi: Even if they don't communicate on a telepathic level with the animals, what they can do is, they can imagine situations like a family with children, you know?
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Paloma Baerschi: So what you actually do is, you imagine a family with children, and you look at a specific dog, you feel that specific dog in your heart, and you match that family with children with that dog, and you will notice, do those energies go together, or do they repel?
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Genie Joseph: Yes, yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: So if they repel, don't look for a family with children, even if a family with children applies.
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Genie Joseph: Right, right, right, right.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, I think that's beautiful, because we teach that in the Human-Animal Connection, we have a concept called towards and away, and we say that animals, when they're not deeply traumatized, they have a really good sense of moving towards what feels right and away from what feels wrong.
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Genie Joseph: And as humans, we need to reconnect with that in ourselves, because that's our animal nature, but often we're not including our animal nature in our day-to-day life.
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Genie Joseph: But that concept of being attracted or repelled is an energetic thing.
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Genie Joseph: It's not even emotional, it's not even mental.
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Genie Joseph: You know, it's just...
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, yeah, great, good.
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Genie Joseph: Okay, so keep going.
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Genie Joseph: Tell us about shelter volunteers.
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Genie Joseph: What else we can do?
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Paloma Baerschi: Yeah, so I think this is one thing that you can do.
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Paloma Baerschi: And another thing, and that was actually told to me by a dog, is that animal shelter volunteers, they are so concerned so often, they want to do all by themselves.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then this dog was telling me, we can help as well.
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Paloma Baerschi: But we need their support.
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Paloma Baerschi: And they need to give us the space so that we can also do our work and support.
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Paloma Baerschi: So sort of take the animal in into the process.
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Paloma Baerschi: It's not like you need to do everything for the animal, but you can do it with the animal.
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Genie Joseph: It's a partnership, right?
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Genie Joseph: Now we're going to save them.
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Genie Joseph: We're going to kind of walk with them on that path so that they can open up.
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Genie Joseph: Sometimes they're in the shelters.
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Genie Joseph: I see dogs who have lost hope completely.
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Genie Joseph: We call them pancake dogs because they're flattened out to the ground.
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Genie Joseph: They don't want treats.
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Genie Joseph: They don't see humans as having anything useful to offer.
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Genie Joseph: They don't want treats.
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Genie Joseph: They're just non-responsive.
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Genie Joseph: How do you help those dogs?
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Paloma Baerschi: There's a very good question you can ask them.
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Paloma Baerschi: What needs to happen for you to come into high spirits again?
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Paloma Baerschi: So what needs to happen?
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Paloma Baerschi: That's a very powerful question.
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Paloma Baerschi: What needs to happen?
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Genie Joseph: What needs to happen?
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Genie Joseph: That's exactly what I do.
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Genie Joseph: I invite their soul back in to help and see if they can reconnect with their soul.
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Genie Joseph: It's almost like lighting their pilot light again.
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Genie Joseph: Do you know what I mean?
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Genie Joseph: Where you give them that sense of connection to something bigger than the circumstances that they're in, that little kennel.
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Paloma Baerschi: Yeah.
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Paloma Baerschi: This is such a powerful question.
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Paloma Baerschi: I just noticed it this morning.
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Paloma Baerschi: I had a communication with a dog and her human, and this dog eats poop.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I mean, a lot of people say, well, it's because the dog's sufficiency in something.
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Paloma Baerschi: You know, like the dog needs something that isn't the poop.
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Paloma Baerschi: That's why it eats the poop.
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Paloma Baerschi: So she wanted to know, you know, she has been working on that for quite a long time, and she wanted to know, well, maybe I could find out something.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I opted for that question.
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Paloma Baerschi: I said, what needs to happen in order for you to stop eating poop?
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Paloma Baerschi: And the answer I got was amazing.
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Genie Joseph: What was the answer?
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Paloma Baerschi: The answer was she needs to work on her self-worth.
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Paloma Baerschi: Because she eats the poop in order to get other dogs away.
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Paloma Baerschi: And that was amazing.
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Genie Joseph: That's amazing.
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Paloma Baerschi: And then she said, that woman tells me, oh, that explains her reaction when she meets other dogs.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I go, what's her reaction when she meets other dogs?
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Paloma Baerschi: And she goes, she runs up to them very happy, and the moment they start sniffing on her, she turns around and has her tail between her legs.
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Genie Joseph: Yes, yes.
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Paloma Baerschi: And I say, well, see, so you really need to work on the self-worth of the dog.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, yeah.
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Paloma Baerschi: But I mean, you would have never ever, I would have never ever guessed that eating poop had to do with self-worth.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, it's really interesting.
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Genie Joseph: It's so interesting.
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Paloma Baerschi: Well, that's really a very powerful question.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, let's repeat the question again so people can repeat the question.
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Paloma Baerschi: What needs to happen in order for this and this to happen?
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Genie Joseph: Okay, what needs to happen?
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Paloma Baerschi: What needs to happen in order for you to stop eating poop?
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Paloma Baerschi: What needs to happen in order for you to feel in high spirits again?
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Paloma Baerschi: What needs to happen in order for you to stay on this planet?
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Genie Joseph: Yes, fantastic.
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Genie Joseph: Well, that's a wonderful note to end on.
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Genie Joseph: It's been such a delightful conversation with you, Paloma.
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Genie Joseph: I'm so glad we had this time to talk about this.
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Genie Joseph: There's so much to talk about.
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Genie Joseph: We're just going to have to have you on again.
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Genie Joseph: How can people find you, get in touch with you, connect with you?
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Genie Joseph: What would you like to give them for connection point?
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Paloma Baerschi: Well, I have a website called speciespace.com, so they can contact me through the website.
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Paloma Baerschi: I also have a podcast, Animal Empathy.
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Genie Joseph: speciespace.com to connect with Paloma or her podcast, Animal Empathy.
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Genie Joseph: Well, thank you so much for illuminating us today here on The Human-Animal Connection.
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Paloma Baerschi: You're very welcome.
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Paloma Baerschi: Thank you for having me.
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