Animals on Purpose
Every animal has a purpose. Not all animals are aware of this purpose, but some are. It is our job as humans to listen to their true purpose and not impose our desires on them. Animals are connected to their true nature and if we share our lives with animals, it is our job to support them – and ourselves – to live as close to our authentic essence as we can. In this episode I tell stories about finding, losing, and re-finding purpose – both for animals and humans. I ask three questions to help people get on track with living their purpose. When we find ourselves in alignment with purpose, which is like having an internal GPS, life gets calmer, more focused, more joyous. Come with us on this journey of cultivating purpose for ourselves and the animals who share our lives.
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<Announcer> This is Pet Life Radio.
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<Announcer> Let's talk pets.
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<Announcer> Welcome to The Human-Animal Connection show, where we believe we can communicate with all animals.
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<Announcer> Join us as we explore the 33 principles and healing methods of The Human-Animal Connection.
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<Announcer> As animal lovers, we know that you share our commitment to making the world a kinder place for all creatures.
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<Announcer> Together, let's embrace the transformative healing power of The Human-Animal Connection.
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<Michael Overlie> Hello, everyone.
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<Michael Overlie> Welcome back to The Human-Animal Connection show.
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<Michael Overlie> I'm your most fortunate host, Michael Overlie, and I'm with the ever-present, ever-amazing and helpful Genie Joseph.
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<Michael Overlie> I'm super excited about this.
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<Michael Overlie> We had such a good time on the last episode that leads right into this, and I can't wait.
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<Michael Overlie> Tell us what we're doing.
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<Genie Joseph> Well, we were just talking about the soul of an animal and connecting with the soul of an animal and how beneficial that is for us as humans and also for them and when those people who choose to, if you want to connect with your animal who's passed on, the door is open if you choose to communicate with them soul to soul.
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<Genie Joseph> So that's what we were talking about in our last episode.
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<Genie Joseph> And in this episode, it's called Animals on Purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> And in this episode, we're exploring the possibilities.
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<Genie Joseph> Some animals are very happy just to be what I would call pets.
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<Genie Joseph> They're perfectly content to just be a dog or just be a cat or just be a horse.
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<Genie Joseph> Other animals have come in with some different purposes.
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<Genie Joseph> And some of those purposes relate to healing, to teaching, to working with energy fields.
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, all different kinds of purposes.
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<Genie Joseph> And it's really exciting when you help an animal live out their purpose, when you discover what an animal's purpose is.
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<Genie Joseph> Like, we do a lot of work with kids in high schools with the therapy dogs.
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<Genie Joseph> And about 20% of dogs are really interested in doing therapy dog work.
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<Genie Joseph> They really are aware of human emotions.
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<Genie Joseph> They really want to be present for human emotions.
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<Genie Joseph> They really want to comfort humans.
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<Genie Joseph> Other dogs, it's like, nah, no thanks, crazy humans.
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<Genie Joseph> I'll play ball with you, but you're nuts.
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<Genie Joseph> It's just really interesting that you can't make a dog be a therapy dog that isn't.
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<Genie Joseph> They'll never pass the test.
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<Genie Joseph> And you can't not, a dog that's truly a therapy dog, you can't stop that dog from being a therapy dog.
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, they will be a therapy dog wherever they are.
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<Genie Joseph> You know what I mean?
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<Genie Joseph> They will just tune in to humans and what they need, and even physical illness without any training at all.
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<Genie Joseph> So it's really exciting to consider the possibility that some dogs have a sense of purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> So that's what we're exploring today.
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<Michael Overlie> There's a dog Ricochet, right?
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<Michael Overlie> Ricochet, the surf dog.
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<Genie Joseph> Right, the surf dog.
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<Michael Overlie> And I actually connected with Ricochet's owner, this is a couple years ago, was it?
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<Michael Overlie> Almost two years ago when I was putting on a summit, and I wanted her to present.
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<Michael Overlie> She was just too busy, but I had the most amazing conversations with her, and she shared so much.
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<Michael Overlie> Anyway, tell me all about Ricochet.
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<Genie Joseph> Yeah, we'll tell the audience the story, and then you can add in.
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<Genie Joseph> Yeah, so Ricochet was born and bred to be a service dog.
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<Genie Joseph> So she came from this lineage of, you know, bred for temperament for service dogs.
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<Genie Joseph> You know, I mean, it couldn't, everything right, and Judy Frodo was her trainer, and had her since, I don't know, eight weeks or something, very early puppyhood.
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<Genie Joseph> And Ricochet was a puppy prodigy.
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, like, within a couple of months, she could do everything.
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<Genie Joseph> She could practically balance her checkbook.
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<Genie Joseph> She could open the laundry and take the clothes out, and she could pick up objects, and she knew all the commands, and sit, and down, and stay, and come, and watch, and you know, all these things.
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<Genie Joseph> She could do everything.
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<Genie Joseph> And then when she hit adolescence, she went on strike.
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<Genie Joseph> She wouldn't do anything.
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<Genie Joseph> She wouldn't do any of the commands.
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<Genie Joseph> She would start chasing birds.
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<Genie Joseph> And this was after Judy had, like, you know, videos of this puppy prodigy doing it.
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<Genie Joseph> I've seen those videos.
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<Genie Joseph> It's amazing to see this little thing doing everything.
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<Genie Joseph> And she was like, all right, I got to give this dog away because her work is training service dogs.
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<Genie Joseph> And this was not going to...
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<Genie Joseph> This dog was not going to get through the testing process.
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<Genie Joseph> And she was about to give him away, and her away.
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<Genie Joseph> And she had a little, I guess, a baby pool in her backyard, a little surfboard.
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<Genie Joseph> And Ricochet, the dog, got on the surfboard and loved it.
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<Genie Joseph> And that gave her an idea.
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<Genie Joseph> And so she began taking Ricochet to the ocean and putting her on a real surfboard.
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<Genie Joseph> And to make the long story short, she began helping paralyzed children do tandem surfing.
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<Genie Joseph> So Ricochet and the child strapped together on this board would go surfing in the ocean.
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<Genie Joseph> And this was children who had never been in the ocean, whatever the stories were.
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, it was like the highlight of their life to go surfing with Ricochet.
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<Genie Joseph> And she raised thousands and thousands of dollars in the videos to help with rehabilitation with children.
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<Genie Joseph> And she did it for adults too.
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<Genie Joseph> And she was a very happy camper, and she was never going to pass the service dog test, but she was in surface, you know, in the surf, doing her service.
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<Genie Joseph> And it's a beautiful story because, you know, her trainer with all good intentions had thought she had one plan in life, and what to her credit, recognized that Ricochet had a different plan, and it was much more beautiful because she helped many more people.
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<Genie Joseph> A service dog is going to change the life for one person, which is a beautiful thing.
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<Genie Joseph> But this dog changed the life of many people and gave many people hope.
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<Michael Overlie> Oh, yeah.
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<Michael Overlie> I know she had to change her business model and everything that she was offering.
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<Michael Overlie> And Judy shared a story with me that she started working with service members, right?
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<Michael Overlie> Retired service members, veterans.
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<Michael Overlie> There was this time when this guy was just interested in meeting Ricochet.
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<Michael Overlie> And Ricochet just spent some quiet time with this guy and completely, completely changed this man's outlook and perspective on his life.
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<Michael Overlie> And she realized that her dog was actually a healer in this other way.
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<Michael Overlie> Anyway, it was fantastic.
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<Michael Overlie> And she's gone on to help so many other people, not just the kids, but veterans too.
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<Michael Overlie> It's fantastic.
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<Genie Joseph> Yeah, I've seen that so many times.
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<Genie Joseph> The right dog with the right veteran, and everything changes because the dog has no judgment.
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<Genie Joseph> The dog has no shoulds, what you should do, what you shouldn't do, or what you did wrong, or anything like this.
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<Genie Joseph> The dog is just like, your essence, I love you.
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<Genie Joseph> Yeah, what did you call it?
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<Genie Joseph> The Tao principle?
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<Genie Joseph> What did you say?
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<Michael Overlie> Oh, the irreducible essence.
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<Genie Joseph> The irreducible essence.
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<Genie Joseph> That's what the dogs see.
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<Genie Joseph> One of the reasons why it's so amazing to be with animals like that, those animals that are truly tuned in like that is that in fact, that's one of the gifts that they give us is that they see us for who we really are.
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<Genie Joseph> Not just, you know, the diplomas on our wall or the car we drive or whatever the house we live in.
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<Genie Joseph> They see us for who we are as a being.
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<Genie Joseph> And that's so rare in life.
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<Genie Joseph> So many people see us through our credentials or our outward personality, whatever it is, how we show up at work.
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<Genie Joseph> But these animals that are truly gifted in this way and you can feel it when they look in your eyes, they just see you.
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<Genie Joseph> We had this one greyhound.
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<Genie Joseph> She was an older greyhound rescue from greyhound racing.
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<Genie Joseph> And she was older, and we'd take her to the classroom.
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<Genie Joseph> And she would just look at you, and you would melt.
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, there's no way you could not melt when this dog just like...
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<Genie Joseph> And greyhounds, these are sighthounds.
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<Genie Joseph> So they are very good at sight.
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<Genie Joseph> In fact, some dogs don't understand why.
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<Genie Joseph> Why is this dog staring at me?
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<Genie Joseph> Well, because it's a sighthound.
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<Genie Joseph> And they really look at you.
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<Genie Joseph> So Mochi would...
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<Genie Joseph> Her name was Mochi, would just really look at you and melt you.
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<Genie Joseph> But after about 20 minutes, she was done.
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<Genie Joseph> You know what I mean?
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<Genie Joseph> Because this was such a profound energy exchange that she was done.
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<Genie Joseph> And we would say to her, Handler, go ahead, go home, because there's no point in having Mochi get overstressed or overtired, because they run out of steam too.
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<Genie Joseph> You know what I mean?
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<Genie Joseph> But it's so beautiful when you meet an animal.
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<Genie Joseph> And Lulu has a little bit of that.
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<Genie Joseph> The dog that we're fostering, she has that ability to look at you, and it's like, oh my God, something happens when you really lock eyes with her.
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<Genie Joseph> And not all dogs want to do that.
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<Genie Joseph> That's not what all dogs want to do, because every dog has a different purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> And when I do sessions with clients, sometimes clients, I won't talk about it unless they bring it up, but if they want to know, what's my dog's purpose?
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<Genie Joseph> And some dogs know, some dogs don't know, but sometimes it's really interesting what we hear, what the dogs have planned.
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<Genie Joseph> And sometimes it's very different from what the human thinks is going to be the life with their dog, and they find out it's something very different.
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<Michael Overlie> Pure potential, right?
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<Genie Joseph> So with our Human-Animal Connection students, we help them with this thinking about purpose, and we have three questions that we ask them to think about.
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<Genie Joseph> And the first question, I'll ask you, Michael, so you can be my student here.
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<Genie Joseph> Okay, it's easy, it's just a feeling question.
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<Genie Joseph> If I was living in purpose, how would I feel?
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<Michael Overlie> Tranquil?
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<Genie Joseph> Mm-hmm, yeah.
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<Genie Joseph> Yeah, at ease.
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<Genie Joseph> Yeah, I mean, that's it.
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<Genie Joseph> You know what I mean?
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<Genie Joseph> And when we're not feeling peaceful and tranquil, and I'm not talking about just a temporary interruption or something, but when we're feeling sort of like in a life way, unpeaceful and untranquil, that's a sign that we're feeling separated from our purpose, that we need to get reconnected with our purpose, because when we are feeling connected to our purpose, there's a certain tranquility that's priceless.
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<Genie Joseph> It's beyond going to get a massage or something that's temporary.
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<Genie Joseph> It's really just like this feeling of, okay, I'm on track.
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<Genie Joseph> I'm on track with my purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> It has a certain quality of feeling.
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<Genie Joseph> And we often are longing for that feeling because we're often not feeling it.
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<Genie Joseph> We're not feeling that we're on track with our purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> And that kind of underlying malaise or that irritation that we feel when we're having to give our time to something that we don't really feel is about our purpose can be very frustrating.
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<Genie Joseph> If you're frustrated, it's a good sign because it means that your purpose is calling.
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<Genie Joseph> There's something that's saying to you, hey, there's something else for you, and this may not be it.
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<Genie Joseph> So that's our first question.
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<Genie Joseph> If I was living in purpose, how would I feel?
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<Genie Joseph> And then the next question we ask is, which of my actions lead to feeling more of the experience of living in purpose?
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<Genie Joseph> So now we're thinking in terms of action.
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<Genie Joseph> So what actions lead you to feel like you're living more in purpose?
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<Michael Overlie> When I start to feel overwhelmed, I've realized that I'm doing too much and that I need to slow down because I get caught up in whatever else is going on, and then I start to miss things.
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<Michael Overlie> So I guess the biggest thing for me is to slow down and then I can feel back into whatever's going on.
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<Genie Joseph> Okay, so that's a great tip.
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, part of what we're doing is we're creating an owner's manual to working with our life, perfecting the relationship with our purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> I'm not saying that it's ever perfect, but it's like what gets us more on track and what gets us more off track.
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<Genie Joseph> So just noticing that when you get too sped up or too busy, that, and that happens to all of us, but that leads to a feeling of not being tranquil and not being peaceful, not feeling connected to what your purpose is.
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<Genie Joseph> And then it can be real easy to get sucked into someone else's agenda about what has to be done right now or whatever, because we're off track with our own purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> And so everybody else's emergencies and goals and visions take over if we don't have our own.
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<Genie Joseph> So that's really important to do.
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<Genie Joseph> And then the third question we ask people is, what is one small step that you could take that would lead you to the direction, put you back in alignment with your purpose?
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<Michael Overlie> To stop and step back, take one step back and change my perspective on whatever it is.
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<Michael Overlie> If it's right here, maybe I can't see it.
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<Michael Overlie> If I step back, I can realize, oh, I really, really need to go over here, but I couldn't see that before.
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<Genie Joseph> Yeah, exactly.
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<Genie Joseph> It just gives you a sense of perspective.
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<Genie Joseph> And I think what's important about purpose is that we not turn purpose into some kind of big bully in the sky.
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<Genie Joseph> You know what I mean?
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<Genie Joseph> It's not something that we want to torture ourselves with.
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<Genie Joseph> In fact, there was one person, I'm sorry, I don't remember his name, but he basically said, stop trying to find your purpose, because that puts you in chase mode, where you're always looking, and it's assuming that you're not in purpose or on purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> It's like, oh, are you my mother?
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<Genie Joseph> Are you my purpose?
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<Genie Joseph> You get into this, is it this?
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<Genie Joseph> Is it that?
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<Genie Joseph> Maybe it's this.
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<Genie Joseph> And the next shiny object seems like it's it or something.
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<Genie Joseph> And so he's basically saying that you want to cultivate your purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> So this is the way we say, what is that one small step that leads me to that feeling of tranquility, of being on track with my life, being in sync with my life, instead of being congruent with my life, rather than being out of step or out of sync with my life.
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<Genie Joseph> And so I like the gentleness of that, is that it helps us to think more about letting our purpose emerge rather than chase it.
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<Genie Joseph> So I think that's a good perspective.
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<Genie Joseph> And it's just fun to play with that.
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<Genie Joseph> So maybe we should just go ahead and take a little break and let people just kind of think about that for a moment.
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<Michael Overlie> Yeah, I'm gonna go take a break and think about that.
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<Announcer> Hey, friends, if you like what you're hearing and want to learn more, check out Dr.
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<Announcer> Joseph's book, The Human-Animal Connection, Deepening Relationships with Animals and Ourselves.
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<Announcer> Or visit the website, thehumananimalconnection.org, to book an online consultation.
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<Announcer> Thank you for loving animals.
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<Michael Overlie> I'm so excited to continue this conversation because some of the things that you've mentioned, I'm like, yep, that was me, yep, that was me, yep, that was me.
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<Michael Overlie> Oh, me too, yeah.
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<Michael Overlie> I've done so many things, and I've chased that shiny object, and like, oh, maybe that's for me, maybe that's for me.
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<Michael Overlie> And some of the things I really had to go through, but a lot of it was not knowing who I was, right?
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<Michael Overlie> Right, right, right.
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<Michael Overlie> That's one of the lessons we can get from our animals, helping us calm down, slow down, and realize who we are at our irreducible essence.
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<Michael Overlie> And it doesn't mean our path won't change.
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<Genie Joseph> Right.
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<Michael Overlie> But yeah, stop chasing, stop running so hard.
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<Genie Joseph> Yeah, I mean, there were so many times in my life that I thought, okay, this is my purpose, you know, and I would drive hard, as hard as I could, and movie business, and all this other stuff.
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<Genie Joseph> And I couldn't imagine life without being in the movie business.
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<Genie Joseph> You know, I couldn't imagine life without living in New York City, in Manhattan, where I lived.
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<Genie Joseph> And then all of a sudden I didn't.
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<Genie Joseph> I lived in Hawaii.
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<Genie Joseph> And it was like, I mean, I was still in the movie business in Hawaii.
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<Genie Joseph> But after a time, it was like, movie business?
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<Genie Joseph> Why?
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<Genie Joseph> You know, it was just like, it was like, it just ran its course.
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<Genie Joseph> You know what I mean?
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, of course I'm simplifying, but the point being is that I had what I thought was my purpose, and I chased it really hard, and it was good, and it was painful, and it was all the things that it was.
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<Genie Joseph> So it's not a mistake.
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<Genie Joseph> It was part of my growth and development and all of that.
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<Genie Joseph> But now I feel like I have a much better sense.
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<Genie Joseph> But even with the animals, I wasn't sure for years.
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<Genie Joseph> I was like, I know it's animals.
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<Genie Joseph> I just don't know what it is with animals.
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<Genie Joseph> I know I love them.
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<Genie Joseph> I know I want to help them, but I don't know how can I make a living?
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<Genie Joseph> It's not easy.
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<Genie Joseph> It's not easy, but I have to say that it is easier.
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<Genie Joseph> And that's the thing that I want to say about purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> It's not a final destination.
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<Genie Joseph> It's not like you get your Harvard degree and it's done.
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<Genie Joseph> It's like you're going to be in this process your entire lives, I'll say it in plural.
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<Genie Joseph> It's a process of being moving, orienting more towards purpose or what is meaningful or true for you and away from what is superficial and not true for you.
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<Genie Joseph> And that doesn't mean that we won't take wrong turns or sidetracks or we'll veer from the path.
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<Genie Joseph> All that's going to happen because that's the human experience.
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<Genie Joseph> But when we see ourselves veering too far, we need to do a course correction.
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<Genie Joseph> And that course correction is one of those three questions.
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<Genie Joseph> It's if I was living my purpose, how would I feel?
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<Genie Joseph> Which of my actions lead to feeling more the experience of living in purpose?
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<Genie Joseph> And what is one small step I could take that leads me back towards my purpose?
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<Genie Joseph> And then it's a huge question if you're starting from zero sense of purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> You can't get from zero to 100.
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<Genie Joseph> You got to get from zero to one.
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<Genie Joseph> So zero to one in my case was I love animals.
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<Genie Joseph> Zero to two was I want to help animals.
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<Genie Joseph> Zero to three was I have all these different methods.
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<Genie Joseph> And then it became a process of, okay, so now how do I get these methods?
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<Genie Joseph> How do I communicate them?
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<Genie Joseph> Do I do a podcast?
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<Genie Joseph> Do I write a book?
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<Genie Joseph> Do I teach classes?
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<Genie Joseph> Do I work, volunteer at the shelter?
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<Genie Joseph> And I'm not saying I'm there yet, in terms of a total final answer, but I feel like I'm more there.
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<Genie Joseph> And recently, out of the blue, like totally not expected, I realized that my clients keep saying to me, what should I feed my dogs?
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<Genie Joseph> And I would look at what they're feeding their dogs.
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<Genie Joseph> I'd read the packages, and it was horrible.
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<Genie Joseph> And I realized I needed a better answer.
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<Genie Joseph> So now I'm like really in this whole learning process of discovering what it means to cook wholesome meals for your dogs.
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<Genie Joseph> And I have to tell you, I am not a...
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<Genie Joseph> I am a stranger to the kitchen.
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<Genie Joseph> It's like, oh yeah, that's where you open the refrigerator and open the microwave.
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, that's...
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<Genie Joseph> You know what I mean?
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, I am not a chef.
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<Genie Joseph> My ex was a chef.
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<Genie Joseph> I learned nothing because he had no patience.
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<Genie Joseph> He was like, earlier in our relationship, I tried to make rice, and I forget, I must have burned it or something.
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<Genie Joseph> And he went into this tantrum, you have to be present to make rice.
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<Genie Joseph> And I said, I am not going to be present in this kitchen.
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<Genie Joseph> I'm out of here.
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<Genie Joseph> So anyway, I didn't learn, and now I have to learn.
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<Genie Joseph> And it's like everybody's told me all my life, oh, you should eat better, whatever.
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<Genie Joseph> Yeah, yeah, I know.
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<Genie Joseph> But I couldn't, I just didn't have it in me.
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<Genie Joseph> But now I care about the dogs.
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<Genie Joseph> I've got an older dog.
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<Genie Joseph> I've got a traumatized dog that we're fostering.
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<Genie Joseph> It makes a difference what you put in their mouth in terms of their behavior, in terms of their health.
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<Genie Joseph> So all of a sudden, I'm like to have this whole new track that I'm like learning about and going to be writing a book about and helping other people because there's so much in processed, commercialized dog food that is just not good for them.
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<Genie Joseph> And to help them get back to being their true selves, we need to feed them better ingredients.
00:19:26.675 --> 00:19:30.435
<Genie Joseph> So anyway, the point being is that sometimes that was a real curve ball.
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, if you said to me a year ago, you're going to be focused on making wholesome home-cooked meals for dogs, I would have said, oh, no, not me.
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<Genie Joseph> I don't even know how to make a home-cooked meal for myself.
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<Genie Joseph> But you know what I'm finding is that what I make for the dogs is perfectly edible for me, too, because I'm using human ingredients, and maybe I'll put a little condiment on it or add some bread or something.
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<Genie Joseph> But fundamentally, it's the same food.
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, they need these healthy proteins, and they need some spinach, and they need some yams.
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<Genie Joseph> This is stuff we can all eat.
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<Genie Joseph> So anyway, the point being is that sometimes you think you know what your purpose is, and then you find out, oh, it's different.
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<Genie Joseph> So that is okay.
00:20:11.315 --> 00:20:12.035
<Genie Joseph> That is okay.
00:20:12.055 --> 00:20:13.015
<Genie Joseph> That's not doing it wrong.
00:20:13.035 --> 00:20:13.615
<Genie Joseph> That's life.
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<Genie Joseph> That's being human.
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<Genie Joseph> But what we want to do is orient our compass.
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<Genie Joseph> We want to have those three questions, maybe on a post-it note or something, or just once a day ask one, or once a week ask one of those questions.
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<Genie Joseph> If I was living in purpose, how would I feel?
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<Genie Joseph> That feeling that you had with just asking that question, it creates a space for you to have a sense of what purpose feels like, because purpose feels meaningful, and purpose feels connected, and purpose feels peaceful, and purpose feels pleasurable.
00:20:48.715 --> 00:20:53.495
<Genie Joseph> It may not be always joyous, like vile joy, but it's a delight.
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<Genie Joseph> It's kind of good feeling that all is right with the world.
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<Genie Joseph> You know, that saying, it's all good.
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<Genie Joseph> Well, that's where when you're in purpose, that's true.
00:21:02.495 --> 00:21:06.715
<Genie Joseph> When you have a terrible job or a terrible relationship or something, it's not all good.
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<Genie Joseph> It isn't.
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<Genie Joseph> It doesn't feel good.
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<Genie Joseph> Do you know what I mean?
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<Genie Joseph> So that statement, it's all good, is true when you're on purpose, but it's not true when you're off purpose and when you're struggling.
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<Genie Joseph> So yeah, it's just something to...
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<Genie Joseph> I think what we want to do is think of purpose as a GPS system.
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<Genie Joseph> You're not going to have your GPS system on all the time.
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<Genie Joseph> It would drive you crazy if it's always telling you which way to go.
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<Genie Joseph> But every once in a while, you need to know where you're going, and you put on that GPS, and it gets you where you need to go.
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<Genie Joseph> So it's the same thing as developing our personal GPS system, or what I call orienting to your north star, is what is it that causes me to feel tranquil?
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<Genie Joseph> What is it that causes me to slow down?
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<Genie Joseph> What is it that causes me to not let other people's agenda or shiny objects pull my energy, pull me away from my path?
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<Genie Joseph> And that really is how we can have a really beautiful and balanced life.
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<Genie Joseph> And that's what the animals do, and that's what they want for us, and that's what they want for themselves.
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<Michael Overlie> What specifically are the animals trying to teach us?
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<Genie Joseph> So I think what they want from us is for us to be ourselves.
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<Genie Joseph> And when we get out of the human doing and into the human being and being ourselves, then we are orienting towards our purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> The purpose will find you.
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<Genie Joseph> Do you know what I mean?
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<Genie Joseph> Like all of a sudden, this home-cooked meal thing, it's like, I wasn't looking forward.
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<Genie Joseph> I didn't think I could do it or understood it, but I'm learning.
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<Genie Joseph> And so by being open to it, by just caring about, I want to understand why Lulu is so scared, this dog that we're fostering.
00:22:38.315 --> 00:22:43.175
<Genie Joseph> Why is it that when a truck goes by, she has to go into her Godzilla routine?
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<Genie Joseph> What is it?
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<Genie Joseph> And what might it be in terms of what is she missing on a nutrient level that could support her feeling of safety?
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<Genie Joseph> Because she clearly has a sense of safety now with us and in the house.
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<Genie Joseph> But it's like, why is it so deeply disrupted by something coming by?
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<Genie Joseph> And maybe I need to give her a stronger foundation on the nutritional level so that she can support her well-being.
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<Genie Joseph> Like right now, when we meditate, when it's time to meditate, we'll just say, you want to do some energy work now?
00:23:13.335 --> 00:23:17.435
<Genie Joseph> And boom, she goes and sits on the couch in her spot, ready, and she's out.
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<Genie Joseph> She's just in her peaceful mode.
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<Genie Joseph> And so she's clearly experiencing some peace, but there's a level that hasn't been changing enough.
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, it's been about two months of fostering, I think, or maybe a little less.
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<Genie Joseph> But anyway, I have to find out what else it is that could really help her, because although all my energy and healing techniques have worked wonders, there is still more to do.
00:23:44.995 --> 00:23:46.715
<Genie Joseph> And this is where I make...
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<Genie Joseph> So I wasn't motivated to discover how to eat healthy for myself in spite of every doctor telling me I should and every friend telling me I should.
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<Genie Joseph> Never did anything.
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<Genie Joseph> I'd do it for a week.
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, yeah, this is good, but I don't have the patience, but I need to do it for her.
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<Genie Joseph> And so this is being true to that in myself, my desire to help her is what's going to help not only me, but her, but others who are going to read this book someday if I get it done, working on it.
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<Michael Overlie> I teach around some of these things as well.
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<Michael Overlie> How do you get back to actually remembering who you are and finding that place?
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<Michael Overlie> And I know the dogs can help us get there.
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<Genie Joseph> Yeah, well, they are still connected to their nature, that essential part of themselves, unless they've been terribly traumatized and they need to get reconnected.
00:24:35.715 --> 00:24:38.195
<Genie Joseph> But dogs who haven't been...
00:24:38.575 --> 00:24:41.515
<Genie Joseph> And when I say dogs, I mean all animals, horses, birds, cats.
00:24:41.815 --> 00:24:50.615
<Genie Joseph> They are themselves, and that's what they show us, is the dog doesn't want to be a parrot, the parrot doesn't want to be an elephant, the giraffe doesn't want to be a mouse.
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<Genie Joseph> They're all very happy in their current experience, and maybe they'll choose a different experience next lifetime, but they are not struggling against who they are.
00:24:59.595 --> 00:25:03.035
<Genie Joseph> And that's the lesson for us too, is we are who we are.
00:25:03.195 --> 00:25:13.595
<Genie Joseph> And now that doesn't mean we're not growing and changing, and we can have the desire to grow and change, but it has to start from a fundamental love and appreciation for who we are right now.
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<Genie Joseph> This is us, this is me, this is me.
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<Genie Joseph> Not perfect, but I don't know, maybe some people would say we're perfect.
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<Genie Joseph> I don't find that very helpful to say I'm perfect, because we are growing and evolving beings, and we just have to grow from a certain self-acceptance, not from a should, not from I'm broken, I have to fix myself perspective.
00:25:34.255 --> 00:25:42.595
<Genie Joseph> But just from a point of view of I recognize that there are parts of me that are afraid or tense or scared or whatever it is or angry, they're there.
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<Genie Joseph> So those are parts of me that are still growing and need to experience deeper levels of safety and trust no matter what other people are doing or not doing.
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<Michael Overlie> Yeah, acceptance is such an important part, and I think we have such a hard time actually doing it.
00:25:57.875 --> 00:26:00.775
<Michael Overlie> We want to think that, oh, I've accepted that.
00:26:01.175 --> 00:26:03.155
<Genie Joseph> Yeah, not completely.
00:26:03.175 --> 00:26:10.895
<Genie Joseph> We might have accepted it intellectually, but we haven't accepted it in our emotions, in our heart, in our cells, in our gut.
00:26:11.335 --> 00:26:19.235
<Genie Joseph> One of the things I'm learning about some of the vitamins is that when the vitamins are deficient, dog's behavior gets bad.
00:26:19.675 --> 00:26:36.815
<Genie Joseph> That's one of the things why I'm looking with Lulu is that as much as I can give her healing, and we can get her calm, and she is calm, and she is beautiful, but there is a part of her that can get very triggered, very deeply, very quickly, very strongly, and you can't talk to her when she's at that 10 level.
00:26:36.895 --> 00:26:39.515
<Genie Joseph> She can't hear you when you say, you can say, sit all you want.
00:26:39.535 --> 00:26:40.175
<Genie Joseph> She's not going to hear it.
00:26:40.575 --> 00:26:44.995
<Genie Joseph> And that's because her brain is just hijacked in that moment with the cascade of stress chemistry.
00:26:45.015 --> 00:26:50.835
<Genie Joseph> So I'm hoping to discover how to help.
00:26:50.855 --> 00:26:53.095
<Genie Joseph> I'm not saying that diet is going to cure everything.
00:26:53.235 --> 00:26:57.455
<Genie Joseph> I think that's one of the things that I'm learning is that you need to work on all levels.
00:26:57.755 --> 00:26:59.315
<Genie Joseph> You need to work at the physical level.
00:26:59.335 --> 00:27:00.715
<Genie Joseph> You need to work at the spiritual level.
00:27:00.735 --> 00:27:03.555
<Genie Joseph> You need to work at the emotional level, energetic level.
00:27:03.575 --> 00:27:06.995
<Genie Joseph> So it's putting it all together that really makes the difference.
00:27:07.795 --> 00:27:09.335
<Genie Joseph> So that's...
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<Genie Joseph> I just want to finish with a story about Ralph, because Ralph was a former race horse.
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<Genie Joseph> He had won some races, and he was originally sold for $65,000 and went lame and ended up in this one so-called therapy horse place.
00:27:26.895 --> 00:27:32.675
<Genie Joseph> And I don't think they were doing great therapy, but anyway, he was so bad.
00:27:32.695 --> 00:27:37.695
<Genie Joseph> So his behavior was so bad that they ended up giving him away, the $65,000 horse.
00:27:37.715 --> 00:27:38.695
<Genie Joseph> They gave him to a woman.
00:27:39.875 --> 00:27:43.955
<Genie Joseph> And the minute I met him, I just felt like this...
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<Genie Joseph> Because there are some horses, they are therapy horses.
00:27:47.675 --> 00:27:48.995
<Genie Joseph> And it was...
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<Genie Joseph> I could see it immediately.
00:27:50.255 --> 00:27:50.995
<Genie Joseph> I hugged him.
00:27:51.015 --> 00:27:51.655
<Genie Joseph> I held him.
00:27:51.675 --> 00:27:52.495
<Genie Joseph> It was beautiful.
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<Genie Joseph> It just was like this love fest.
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<Genie Joseph> And he is destined to be a therapy horse.
00:27:57.835 --> 00:27:59.015
<Genie Joseph> And now he's in a good place.
00:27:59.035 --> 00:28:03.275
<Genie Joseph> He's in a good sanctuary that does therapy horse work.
00:28:03.295 --> 00:28:07.675
<Genie Joseph> And he can be himself now for the first time in his life.
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<Genie Joseph> But he had to go through racing and being misunderstood and being mistreated by everybody and not trusting humans and all of the things that go on in a horse that doesn't fit somebody's mold.
00:28:18.895 --> 00:28:20.175
<Genie Joseph> You know, his broken horse, right?
00:28:20.335 --> 00:28:20.955
<Genie Joseph> Broken horse.
00:28:20.975 --> 00:28:21.955
<Genie Joseph> Can't race, can't ride him.
00:28:21.975 --> 00:28:22.815
<Genie Joseph> He still can't be ridden.
00:28:23.215 --> 00:28:25.675
<Genie Joseph> But he's so beautiful and he's so wonderful.
00:28:26.115 --> 00:28:27.295
<Genie Joseph> And he's a great communicator.
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<Genie Joseph> You can talk to him just like we're talking now.
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<Genie Joseph> And sometimes it'd be really funny.
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<Genie Joseph> I'd be doing a session with one person, like away from him in my house, and he'd come in and talk to me during the session, say, oh, you know, she just needs to think about, you know, he would just come in and give me something that I hadn't thought of.
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<Genie Joseph> You know, it was just really sweet.
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<Genie Joseph> I mean, he's just so extraordinary.
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<Genie Joseph> A person he'd never met, and he would just come help them.
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<Genie Joseph> I had a client who's dealing with cancer, and he would just come and help her.
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<Genie Joseph> He would just come and offer her some feeling of love and support and give her some courage.
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<Genie Joseph> So.
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<Genie Joseph> Yeah.
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<Genie Joseph> So that's a little bit about purpose and animals on purpose and human animals on purpose.
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<Genie Joseph> And in our next episode, I believe we're going to talk about the power of names, because that's a really important thing.
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<Genie Joseph> You should never name an animal without really making sure that the name is in sync energetically with their essence.
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<Genie Joseph> So lots of times in shelters, like in my shelter, they get 75 to 100 dogs a day in, and names are just slapped on by somebody who's very, very busy, and they don't mean any harm.
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<Genie Joseph> But I noticed that dogs with the wrong names, meaning the name that's not really who they are, take longer to get adopted.
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<Genie Joseph> So we'll be talking about the power of names in our next episode.
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<Genie Joseph> Well, thanks for joining us.
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<Genie Joseph> Thanks, Michael.
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<Michael Overlie> Thank you so much.
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<Genie Joseph> I love this.
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<Michael Overlie> Thank you, everybody, for tuning in, and we will see you soon.
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<Genie Joseph> Bye for now.
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